Can you really survive simply by trading your own account?
You lose your job. You really can't find another one. Can you live simply by trading on the back of your redundancy payout?
Maybe, but don't count on it.
"There is no guaranteed monthly income from trading," says Anton Kreil, a former European equities trader at JPMorgan, Lehman and Goldman Sachs-turned CEO at the Institute of Trading and Portfolio Management. "That's what Madoff offered and it turned out to be a fraud."
Nevertheless, some people purport to be doing ok using their own initiative.
Take 26 year old 'Vladimir,' who left a comment on this article claiming that he lost his investment banking job in London, moved to Eastern Europe, cut his cost of living to €500 a month and turned 10k of savings into 142k over two years.
Is Vladimir normal?
Possibly not. Lex Van Dam, an ex-trader at Goldman Sachs and GLG, says most people find it difficult to trade for a living. "A lot of people fail," he says. "Most people make money in finance, not because they're good traders but because they're working for a bank. Trading your own money is not a simple thing - for most people, it's best to stay away."
Geraint Anderson retired from the City aged 35, under the impression that 2.5m would be enough capital to provide him with an income. He says it hasn't worked out that way: "I was hoping to make a 5% real return. It's not impossible, but it's hard work when the markets are so unpredictable. I haven't looked at my portfolio for ages and no doubt I've singularly failed."
If you want to have any chance of making a long term living from trading, you need to resist the urge to lever yourself up too massively. Kreil points out that some brokerages will offer you leverage of up to 10 times on stocks and 100 times on FOREX and that it's in their interest to do so. The brokers charge commission fees on the total value of your trades, not just your collateral.
"If you only lever yourself two to four times, you'll have to lose 25% to 50% to wipe out your collateral," he says. "But in a well-diversified portfolio with 20 positions, half of which are long and half of which are short, it's almost impossible to lose that amount. Loads of people make a living from trading, but they're the ones who haven't leveraged themselves too highly. If you lever yourself 10 times for example, it will only take a 10% loss and your collateral will be wiped out. With 100 times a 1% loss will wipe you out"
William de Lucy who runs the prop firm Amplify Trading says it takes a longish time for people to make a living from trading their own book. "You need to get a feel for your trading strategy before increasing your leverage," he says. De Lucy also claims that non-traders from banks usually need a bit of training before they're competent at trading their own books. Amplify will apparently provide this at a cost of 4.5k for four months. Vladimir didn't seem to do it, but maybe you need to add this to your costs.