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Can you use a Cass MBA to go from a middle office role in a bank to trading in a hedge fund?

When we wrote an article about MBAs this week, we received an enlightening comment from someone purporting to be a former student of Cass Business school.

This (anonymous) person, claimed they used their MBA to transition from a middle office job in a US investment bank to a trading job in a hedge fund.

It wasn't an easy move. "At the end of the day, an MBA - like many other post-grad qualifications - will only be as good as you allow it to be," said the apparent Cass MBA graduate. "If you only go to the standard careers fairs provided by the school and apply for the roles the school provides, the chances of getting what you want will be diminished significantly.

"I must have sent out well over 100 CVs, networked as much as possible and generally did everything I could think of to maximize my chances," he adds.

So should other middle office people with aspirations of hedge fund trading go to Cass?

The school ranked 37th globally in the recent Economist MBA ranking and 34% of its 2009-10 full time MBA graduates (the most recent year for which figures are available) went into finance or banking. Organisations sucking them up included Deutsche, JPMorgan (Asset Management) and the FSA.

Sarah Juillet, head of postgraduate careers at Cass says she thinks she knows the identity of the hedge fund mover.

"He had some trading experience on his CV, which he was able to leverage. He also did an awful lot of networking," she says.

Other people intending to use their MBA as a catalyst for career transformation are advised that multi-dimensional metamorphoses tend to not happen. "If you come expecting a career switch across function, industry and geography you will find it difficult," suggests Juillet. "This person was not changing industry, just function."

On the whole, accounting firms seem more partial to MBA career changers than investment banks. Last year, Juillet says Cass had a quantity surveyor who emerged from the MBA as a strategy consultant at Ernst & Young. By comparison, she says some middle office investment bankers leave the MBA as middle office investment bankers, but in more senior and strategic roles.

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AUTHORSarah Butcher Global Editor
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    Woody02
    14 December 2011

    I must be thick - why would a Cass MBA not be of attraction to a hedge fund for a trading role?

    True, most HFs I know seek candidates that tick a series of boxes, and tend towards certain B schools. Those are a given.

    But if that were all, we would have extremely formulaic hiring across the industry, yielding similar, merely average returns. That is not what the alternatives space is about, especially when talking about funds pursuing trading-heavy strategies.

    The real differentiators are additional characteristics which may well be made evident in an interview situation by an ability to network (gain access to decision-makers in the first place), provide insight into skills/knowledge acquired wherever (as long as useful to the role), and to show correct attitude (motivation, preference to conceptualize and implement etc).

    And in case the first-time jobseekers among the eFc readership were the ones wondering about the success of a Cass MBA: never let anyone in the City tell you an avenue is closed to you because of the wrong education. Go for it, and patiently await the day you can give them the finger as you get into the Aston Martin.

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    Michael
    22 October 2011

    Cass degrees are so practical that having one is like having at least two years of work experience. What you learn on the degree you can apply in the real world. Companies do not have spend the high training course fees on getting these graduates up to speed like other Oxbridge candidates and in this economic cycle it is crucial. That is why Cass Business School has the highest average graduate salary for its alumni compared to every university in the UK.

  • ED
    ED Front Office
    21 October 2011

    I have recruited Cass grads in the past and in my opinion they work harder and smarter...perhaps because they are not from a Russell group and expect it all on a plate!

  • Sr
    Sr Rec
    21 October 2011

    I agree with Boss, the economic cycle is the main problem. I have interviewed graduates from Cass Business School and other top universities and found Cass alumni to be very diligent, approachable and intelligent. You really cannot generalize Blake.

  • Bo
    Boss
    21 October 2011

    This is silly, I am a graduate from Cass Businees School, I am a Senior Director and all my career was always in Trading and Portfolio Management.
    Lots of my former colleagues from Cass are also at senior managing and executive roles in front-office.
    If someone from Cass is not getting a job now is because of the damn economic cycle that we are. Just go check if the kids from LBS, LSE or Oxbridge are doing any better these days, their CVs are piling up at the HR's desks in the same way.

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