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GUEST COMMENT: An internal overseas transfer may not be such a good idea after all

In the good old days when a bank sent you abroad it was a good gig; the first time I ever had servants was when Citi put me up in Sydney in a rather nice apartment.

The general principle was that you'd be kept at the standard you had back home, plus a bit to compensate for the hassle of being away.

It ain't like that no more. Over the last couple of years I've been increasingly contacted by people who've had it strongly 'suggested' that they relocate as part of a business reorganisation, and they're not happy at all about the terms.

A line that apparently all HR people have been told to use is 'that's your problem'. This applies to just about any costs that come with the move. And when converting your pay to the new currency, expect the persons in HR to use exchange rates that you won't find on Reuters - and, no, they are not in your favour.

Unsurprisingly enough, our recent salary survey showed that bankers in New York don't earn 20% less than bankers in London. And yet, HR seem surprisingly unwilling to accept this. They also seem surprisingly unwilling to structure expenses in the most tax efficient way possible. Will they compensate you for that? *Hollow laugh*

To be fair they don't always say it's your problem. More often, they say, "that will be taken account of in your bonus." This is, of course an industry standard lie: if you move to a new office your bonus can't be assumed to be as good as it is now because you risk losing visibility.

As a headhunter, I've read the bonus policies of a few banks and they're hilariously uncorrelated. Reality is that a key term in your bonus allocation is your visible productivity. If your boss is sending you somewhere he can't see your work, that work doesn't exist, and it's obvious that bad news about your work travels far better than things done right.

This is on top of the fact that, even if you're being moved to a country where they speak English, you can't live as efficiently as you can in a city you know well. Finding somewhere to live seems to be a major issue. HR will commonly offer to pay 'up to 60% of the cost' whilst you keep your London home, but even that is taxable. Tokyo is famously expensive, but everywhere else is not much better. Living like a westerner in most emerging markets can get very expensive quickly and you should flatly ignore any statements from HR that the "cost of living in Singapore / Shanghai / Athens is much lower than London", sometimes pointing to the cost of MP3 players as if they are a major part of your cost base.

I talk a lot about HR, because it's their job to do the dirty work. I know this, because the people I advise get told by their boss to 'talk to HR, they will sort it out' even if you're effectively taking a big pay cut for the good of the team.

When writing these pieces I normally offer some way of making it better, but the process is well designed to minimise the costs of the bank at your expense. Unfortunately, therefore, the best thing you can do is to assume from the start that you're going to be shafted and to make sure you've started looking for another job before 'suggestions' that you move become threats.

Dominic Connor is a Director of P&D Quant Recruitment.

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  • Re
    Recruiter
    27 September 2011

    @ Banker and Bankers mate - You are two loser bankers who cannot accept changed reality.

  • Ba
    Banker's mate
    27 September 2011

    Agree with banker.

  • Th
    Thomas
    27 September 2011

    I hear what you're saying, but I think that London should pay more than NYC because the cost of living is significantly cheaper in NYC. Maybe not your rental expense, but day-to-day costs such as transportation and food are sometimes 40-50% less in NYC. I was transferred to London from the US and felt that the pay was significantly more, but then arrived here and realized the cost of living meant it was a pay cut.

    Other thing worth mentioning when you transfer offices is that any protection from layoffs you have through the goodwill you've established in your home office country does not exist in the new place. I've known many who have been sent abroad only to be fired down the line. Funny how when you last in, you can sometimes be first out because the foreign office didn't recruit you and they are just stuck with you. Sometimes this means you are more expendable when compared to the people at your level who have been working there for years.

  • SC
    SCBer
    27 September 2011

    true story I got absolutely fooked by Standard Chartered on my move abroad. And you are right, HR didn't care and nor did my boss.

  • Ex
    Expat
    27 September 2011

    I had one of those 'move or else' situations a few years back in a cross European proposed move.

    The terms basically were thus.
    A few days off to look for accommodation
    A 30 percent cut in salary (currency wise) and much higher taxes

    Now I knew that moving country you have to go on the cost of living in the new place and accept the going rate in the new country but this was taking it to extremes.

    The HR chap explained that of course the accommodation will have to be sorted out by me and it does not need to be the same standard of how you are living at the moment (They were moving me to somewhere more expensive) and that I could live out in the boondocks if I wanted the same level.

    The look of amazement from them when I started laughing and handed in my notice was that of a dog being shown a card trick.

    I was not the only one they pulled this trick on, and amazingly they are still doing it even up until this day, its a very backdoor mechanism to lower costs and trim staff numbers by offering something so ludicrous they know the employee will leave without them having to pay redundancy.

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