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At the very least, this is utter, utter disaster for the UBS bonus pool

If you haven't heard already, it's all gone badly wrong at UBS.

The bank reported today that it's lost in the region of $2bn from "unauthorized trading by a trader in its Investment Bank" and could therefore make a loss in the third quarter.

It's not Jerome Kerviel ($7bn). But it's not good.

Net profits were down 36% year on year at UBS's investment bank in the first half and the cost ratio was 80.2%, up from 70% in the first half of 2010. A third quarter loss risks pushing the full year cost ratio up even higher and all but obliterating bonuses in the process.

The long term repercussions of this could be more wide ranging. Analysts are already

suggesting that the missing $2bn casts UBS in a poor light. The bank's ill-timed decision to move heavily back into FICC trading (and to increase VaR inopportunely) could come under even more scrutiny than it has already.

By the same token, the rogue has the potential to undermine the position of Oswald Grubel, who's spearheaded the trading rebuild. It's worth remembering that Kerviel ultimately led to the departure of Daniel Bouton following 'personal attacks' on his leadership.

For the moment, however, it's the bonus pool that will suffer. The disappeared $2bn could lead to more than the 300 redundancies previously predicted for London. It could also lead to an amplification of the political wrangling already said to be affecting the London office. But it will be very good for some risk staff.

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AUTHORSarah Butcher Global Editor
  • 30
    30yearsinthe business
    18 September 2011

    UBS has to do the decent, right and honest thing. I would be absolutely shocked as I think all the regulators, shareholders and UBS's counterparties would be if they did not sack ALL their Risk People in London.

  • De
    Del boy
    17 September 2011

    Grubel has consistently blown his own and Carsten's trumpet about effective risk management at UBS with their own personal oversight. We've also had the CFO saying that Carsten is all over risk. I cannot see how these two guys can stay especially when it looks like they did not learn their lesson from the Soc Gen affair. As for desk heads and the business managers/coos, they must have been asleep on the job too. The first heads to roll will probably be in the middle/back office risk function (as always) but these guys in the front office should also consider stepping down because they SHOULD have spotted this. If it had gone the other way, the trader would have been a hero and his risk limits would probably have been increased for the following year.

  • FO
    FO sucks. MO/BO sucks even mor
    17 September 2011

    Why do the front office office always shirk their responsibility when things go wrong and expect the middle/back office to pick up the tab? Yes the risk control function are there to monitor and control for risk but the front office should always know exactly what is going on their respective desks. Even when there is significant risk attached to any trading strategy, what the front office wants/says usually hold more weight in any internal conversation. From a regulatory perspective, these guys/girls and their management are held up to high standards of conduct and oversight by just being licensed. I wonder if the regulators are going to actively take charge here and hold up the revenue generators against these standards. These control functions need to be "truly" independent and have the "power" to really challenge/veto the front office rather than jumping when told to because their wages are paid for by the front office. You can put whatever controls you want in place but people will always find a way to side step the rules/controls in the name of making money for themselves and shareholders.

  • cs
    cs
    16 September 2011

    All the contributers so far are stupid. He was in delta1.... ie not risk taking. For a loss to happen of this magnitude it must have been fraud + negligence/useless risk systems.

  • UB
    UBS
    16 September 2011

    @CS: We may be in deep sh*t but you are Complete Sh*t (CS)

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