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Career CPR: I've had two great job offers in trading but I can't decide which one to take

Review this candidate's dilemma and resume, then let us know which is the best of the two roles.

"I've received verbal offers for two trading roles in commercial banks which have significantly different prospects. I need advice on which one to pick because I am likely to be stuck in the product line for a while. As I have not received a formal offer or talked about remuneration, I would also appreciate any info on salary and bonus ranges."

FX Options Trader

A junior position on a flow-driven desk, which means mostly administrative duties, market making or squaring up the book.

Upside

Potential international relocations and relatively less pressure to pick markets.

Downside

Limited opportunity to move elsewhere later in my career and capped remuneration on the back of low limits. FX options market is shrinking and vacancies are scarce.

Credit Trader

A purely prop role trading credit. Freedom to run own trades and models. No clients.

Upside

No clients and/or much admin work. A lot of freedom to trade as you will and transferable skills gained.

Downside

Bonus significantly dependent on getting trading decisions right. Uncertainty where credit is heading volume-wise.

Here's an anonymous version of her CV...

EDUCATION

A university in Melbourne

2007 - 2010: Bachelor of Applied Finance

· Distinction average

Financial Services Academy

2008: Diploma in Financial Services (Financial Planning)

WORK AND LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE

Big four bank, Melbourne: Jan 11 - present

Institutional Banking, Financial Markets Graduate

Another big four bank, Sydney: March 10 to Dec 10

Finance Analyst, Group Treasury

Retail bank, financial centre in Asia: Feb 10 - Mar 10

Intern, Institutional Equity Sales

Big four bank (same firm as second listed above), Sydney: Nov 09 - Feb 10

Summer Intern, Finance

Accounting firm, Brisbane: April 08 - July 09

Trainee Accountant, Corporate

Big four accounting firm, Brisbane: Dec 07

Summer Intern, Assurance and Advisory

Are you based in Australia and is your career in need of some help? If so, please email us on apac.editor@efinancialcareers.com with your CV and a detailed description of your problem.

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  • FX
    FX Forwards Trader
    9 June 2011

    As you mentioned earlier the Credit Prop position would allow you a lot of freedom and flexibility to make your own decisions. In my view this would be far more interesting than a straight flow trading role.

    That said, it depends on your character .. if you are self-motivated, organised and able to back yourself then prop is great, otherwise it's much easier to start on a more flow-based role and then move onto prop when your confident.

    But lets be honest, you wouldn't be considering trading if you didn't like a bit of risk, so why wouldn't you go prop?

    To those looking to get into a trading role, the usual path is to spend a few years in middle-office getting a handle on the products, valuation, trade processing, risk, etc. If you can prove yourself to be sharp and show interest, you will usually be given an opportunity to start as a junior trader.

    Be aware trading is highly-competitive, so you really have to make sure you stand out above the pack to get in.

  • To
    Tom
    1 June 2011

    I would go for the credit role - it seems more interesting and challenging so why not?

    I'm also interested in how you got the role, I have similar experience to you and working at a big 4 atm. I'm also interested in trading but seems a bit lost as to how to go about securing such a role. Can you give me some advice on how to get into trading and how you got your role? (ft.tomy@gmail.com)

    Cheers

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    Tom
    1 June 2011

    Which commercial banks are running prop desks these days anyway?

  • Ba
    Banking recruiter
    1 June 2011

    I am an experienced recruiter (circa 10 years) in the finance market and I would suggest the Credit role, you are rewarded for your performance and driven by your own motivation to succeed. The FX role will be very limited moving forward and you are at the mercy global economies more so than in credit prop...tough choice - I always say to go with your gut, you should have a feeling as to which one is better for you culturally - never pick a role based on a higher salary if you feel the culture doesn't suit you - you'll only be back on the market within 12 months. Money can't improve a culture...and you won't be happy turning up to work for an extra $10K if the company isn't supportive or the right environment. Good luck!!

  • To
    Tom
    1 June 2011

    I think you should do some research into exactly what your applying for.
    Depending on your risk limits, which will be a function of your ability and experience, it is possible to take some pretty punchy prop positions (PPPP) as a market maker. A good MM on desk with good flow can generate just as a good PnL as a prop trader.... PnL being the main driver in bonus decisions...

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