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It's not totally clear that HSBC would benefit from moving to Hong Kong

The big meme of the weekend was this: HSBC is leaving London for Hong Kong; its shareholders want it to relocate because if it does, the share price will rise 30% (literally) overnight.

The source of the idea was the Telegraph, which claimed to have spoken to HSBC's top institutional investors. They, in turn, claimed to have been told that the forthcoming tri-annual review of HSBC's location was merely a formality and that HSBC would probably be leaving: the arguments for doing so were said to be "overwhelming."

HSBC has since denied the done-ness of the deal and says it does want to stay in London, but its shareholders (60% of whom are based outside the UK) keep asking why this is.

Although HSBC's 8,000 or so workers at Canary Wharf have an air of permanency, the bank hasn't always been based here. HSBC was headquartered in Hong Kong until 1992, at which point it bought Midland Bank and moved to London.

The case for going

The case for leaving is centred around both cost and capital. When it announced its results last month, HSBC said costs had become, "unacceptable."

In global banking and markets, the cost income ratio was 49.9%, up from 39.1% in 2009. This was partly due to the UK bonus tax (173m) and partly due to the UK banking levy ($600m). With luck the bonus tax will not be repeated. However, the banking levy could be avoided if HSBC were in Hong Kong.

The biggest push factor, however, seems to be capital requirements. The Hong Kong Monetary Authority reportedly requires banks to hold less capital than the FSA. By moving to Hong Kong, HSBC could leverage up its balance sheet, avoid cutting its return on equity target to 12-15% from 15-19%, and recover last week's 5% fall in its share price. Or so the story goes.

The case for staying

Could it really, however?

Even banks in Hong Kong are obliged to abide by Basel III, making higher capital costs unavoidable in Asia too.

By moving to Hong Kong for this reason, HSBC would expose itself to allegations of regulatory arbitrage and damage its reputation for steady solidity.

It's also unclear that shifting some of the 8,000 staff currently in Canary Wharf to a new headquarters in Hong Kong would really save money.

As HSBC revealed last week, the average person categorised as 'code staff' (risk takers and senior managers) at its offices in London now receives a bonus 30% lower than their counterparts globally. Ok, this is partly down to higher base salaries in London, but the reality is that pay in Asia is increasing fast.

Standard Chartered and UBS have both complained of the same phenomemon. As our Hong Kong site notes, local headhunters are already getting warming to the prospect of lots of poaching fees.

By moving to Asia, it's therefore quite likely that HSBC would increase staff costs, irritate the British government, create the impression of regulatory opportunism, and place itself in a challenging time zone in which it's difficult to do business with the US. It's not surprising it wants to play the prospect down.

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AUTHORSarah Butcher Global Editor
  • Si
    Sick of being picked on
    7 March 2011

    @Daniel

    Typical, Daniel if you can point out to me where in my original post I mentioned pay that'd be most appreciated. My grievances have more to do with the fact that the whole industry is being demonized to the extent that it's now counter productive to the country, we're already seeing CEOs say that banks and other businesses are being chased away by punitive regulations capital charges. You start fostering the image that success is a bad thing and you may as well nationalize every industry. We people like Mervyn King say that 'banks put profits before people' I'm sorry but duh, so does every company answerable to shareholders.

  • Wi
    Wizard of EC1
    7 March 2011

    Daniel - do grow up. 80% of the UK's structural deficit is caused by the irresponsible, prolifigate spending on the public sector, especially gold plated pensions. The 20% currently employed to prop up a small number of poorly run Banks will be paid back - the PS pension liability will last for generations!

    Your anger should be directed towards the retail banker in "Nowheresvile", southern USA that sold Billy-Bob a mortgage on his dry-rot ridden weatherboard farm, that he had no chance of ever repaying - deafening silence from the politicians.

    Cable and Milliband are irresponsible ( people that still enjoy pay rises, an eye wateringly generous expenses system based on 17th century notions of trust and subsidised bars !).

    Dry your eyes princess and admit that the days of running up twice your monthly wages on credit for cheap tat at Argos and Ikea are gone and you only have yourself to blame for the public sector debt.

  • Da
    Daniel
    7 March 2011

    @Sick of Being Picked On

    We are sick of bailing you all out with our taxes. Its cost me 250K - admittedly spread forward over 20 years and hidden in my taxes. And if you say your employer did not need a bailout, how long do you think it would have survived if a lot of other large banks had gone down.

    Quit whinging and accept that you work in what should always have been a low-salary utility business and will soon be so again.

  • HW
    H Williams
    7 March 2011

    I think it unlikely to happen as country risk issues would make HSBC borrowings more expensive.
    Dealing with the US or Europe was never a problem before 1992. In fact, European deals could be dealt with over(European)night!

  • Si
    Sick of being picked on
    7 March 2011

    I really hope there is substance to this story, it'd serve Westminster right, people like Cable and Miliband think they can use the industry as a punchbag in order to curry favour with the electorate without any consequences.

    Cameron makes a speech about how enterprise will make this country great once again and then one of the world's biggest banks ups sticks to the Far East - would love to see that.

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