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Guest Comment: Returning to Australia can be a rough ride if you don't manage your expectations

Australian financial services professionals have always been mobile.

From finishing university, doing a European Contiki tour, running out of money, getting a starter job, and finally transferring to an international firm, Aussies are found in many roles in almost every financial institution around the world.

Can you think of an office you've worked in overseas that wasn't full of Aussies (and Kiwis for that matter)? I remember about 15 years ago when the entire middle-office functions of some investment banks in London were Antipodeans, although ironically the one that stands out in my memory is Barings.

Although some stay away permanently, most of these increasingly well qualified people will one day face the dilemma: "is it time to go home?"

It is often at AVP and VP-level that even the Contiki tour legend, who graduated from tour guide to risk manger, decides to settle down. Wedding bells, children or ailing parents might ignite the fuse. And at this point the reality hits: "what am I going to do when I get back?"

The job market in Australia can be limited. Limited in the numbers of prospective employers, further limited in types of functions, and possibly in suitably challenging roles. So can bringing back experience from larger markets like London - where deal volumes are higher and products more complex - actually limit you career prospects when you return?

Career culture clash

There are many differences between roles in international banking centres and those in Australia. Many of these relate to scale - the simple notion that bigger teams have room for more specialist individuals. In smaller teams, people do a greater range of duties, and job responsibilities are broader. This mismatch is often where the tension starts for returnees.

Take, for example, a weather derivatives analyst moving back to Australia. In larger markets, several banks have whole teams doing this type of work. In Sydney, three institutions may have fledgling teams, with fewer than five people in each - so 15 jobs in the entire city.

By the time you exclude positions that are too senior or too junior, and the probability of a remaining spot being vacant when you happen to be looking, your chances of finding a role are fairly slim. This is an extreme example but the dynamics apply at a whole range of levels and functions.

Your expectations need to be realistic and you must recognise the differences between the market you left and the one you are returning to. But you can make these differences work for you. Your career path doesn't need to stall.

The route to MD may just be achieved slightly differently than how it is in larger markets. Potential advantages of Australia include breadth of responsibilities, proximity to the businesses and the opportunity to work across ranges of products.

Trying to exactly replicate the role that you were in overseas can be impossible but opportunities where you utilise your skills in a slightly different way will keep your career developing.

Simon Boulton, director, Aequalis Consulting

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    Scott
    10 August 2011

    I returned back home with my family (Melbourne) after 8 years in London in FS.

    It only took me under 3 months to get a contract role which ended after 6 months. For the next year I had interviews with approx 8 companies. After the frustrating year I returned back to London to meet up with my contacts and after 5 weeks I had interviews with approx 10 firms and 3 job offers. I returned back to Melbourne to collect the family and pack up before returning back to London and have now settled with my family.

    All recruitment agents in OZ pride themselves in their "professionalism" over the UK agencies. I had many conversations with them before I returned and the feedback was all positive. It was also quite positive when I was there however it was followed up with much inaction. They are however all after the cash and happily rotate people that they have previously placed to other jobs on their books.

    If I was to move back again, I would have to ensure that I had a job before I arrived. Not having a job not only affects you financially but most of all is emotionally damaging.

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    celeste
    26 March 2011

    Don't come back is the best advice. I'm Being kind. I did years ago and have regretted it every single day.

    Look the skill level of Australians in global markets, equities, investment banking here compared to those Aussies with London and/or NY and/or HK experience is hopeless. I work with a ton of arrogant amateurs at a local investment bank here.

    All people know here is the AUD, the Big 4 banks, BHP and Rio and maybe Woolworths and Telstra. What a joke. That's the Australian market in a nutshell. Sad really. Lots of people here with a law degree or CFA (as Aussies so love to cut corners) and dont spend up on Masters degrees or MBAs like in the states or Asia/UK. People in financial markets here are very arrogant especially considering Australia is a mere 1.5% of the MSCI world Index.

    As for living, Sydney is especially falling apart and you need to work until 100 to maybe own your house here, meaning you and your kids will live in debt up to your eyeballs forever to own a house youll overpay AUD$1m for thats worth $400k really. Your life will be over.

  • BB
    BB
    22 March 2011

    Thanks for the comments above Phillip,

    I'm in the process of making my decision to return to aust but looking at the roles advertised on line is uninspiring. I

  • Bi
    Biancabanker
    22 March 2011

    Coming back from overseas...worked for a big bank or firm.....three pieces of advice

    1. Lower your salary expectations...Pounds for dollar parity applies in salaries here. Dont say I was on STL50k in london and so expect AUD$150k ...youre worth $50k here. If youre screaming at me....you just dont get it yet.

    2. Dont use one headhunter, use 50. or 100...god knows there are 1000 here. Biggest mistake i ever made was that one. Dont listen to their exclusive demand requirements as 99.9% of them are lazy and dont give 2 hoots about your career, money issues, kids or career goals. They want a cheque and thats all. You are all alone and will need to do all the heavy lifting to find your job. So live cheap until then,

    3. 6 months to 2 years is how long it could take you to find a job. Not kidding. It could even take longer for the best candidates. Idiotic back office staff will find a role faster than highly skilled. If takes less than 3 months once you land back in oz...you are a living breathing miracle. If you can do it in melbourne or brisbane inside 3 months you are a genius and should be planning rocket launches instead of finance
    Tough love but thank me later.

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    Asassi2002
    22 March 2011

    I arrived back from London after 14 years working for investment banks in the square mile: Deutsche Morgan Grenfell, JPMorgan Chase. My background is implementing trading floor infrastructure and services. I thought I would atleast find something in Melbourne or Sydney however to make matters worse just as I arrived back in Australia the financial crisis hit (end of 2006) - I had just graduated with my MBA. To this date I still have no good news and the gap in my CV is just getting wider..although a few more jobs are starting to be advertised now...I am willing to relocate to any city in Australia....it is shocking considering Rudd promised us jobs when we returned to Oz .

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