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Are Chinese candidates far superior?

If you're running a team, particularly in the unforgiving environment that is financial services, the last thing you probably want is someone who needs constant reassurance, is happy with mediocrity and has spent his or her time in education partying and participating in sporting activities rather than obtaining deep expertise in an area of maths or science.

Meet the average Western candidate.

In the West, it's normal for parents to nurture children and praise them even when their achievements aren't exemplary.

In the UK, this is typified by the examination system. Prior to 1988, grades for A levels were awarded according to rank: the top tier of candidates got an A, the next got a B and so on. Since 1988, grades have been awarded simply according to the achievement of a specified pass rate. The result has been to massively increase the number of students with A grades; by 2010 27% of all passes achieved an A, even though most were far from the best performers.

By comparison, a controversial article in the Wall Street Journal at the weekend, highlighted the extent to which Chinese mothers accept nothing less than excellence in their children.

"If a Chinese child gets a B-which would never happen-there would first be a screaming, hair-tearing explosion," writes the author, a Chinese professor at Yale Law School. "Chinese parents demand perfect grades because they believe that their child can get them. If their child doesn't get them, the Chinese parent assumes it's because the child didn't work hard enough."

Differences between Chinese (and Indian) and Western attitudes to education are also investigated in the documentary 2 million minutes by US investor Bob Compton.

Having struggled to hire Westerners of sufficiently high calibre himself, Compton compares how US, Chinese and Indian students spend their time in education. He finds that the Chinese and Indians are far more intellectual and career driven - to the extent that they will read texts on calculus as bedtime reading and wake up at 5.45am to do extra maths. US students are more interested in computer games.

What does this mean for the financial services industry?

In an international hub like the UK, the implications are clear: for non-client facing roles, non-Western candidates may well be best. It's a shame that the UK government is making it much harder for them to come through.

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AUTHORSarah Butcher Global Editor
  • Ma
    Machiavelli
    26 March 2011

    .I can tell you that Chinese drink as hard as they can, have sex, cheat their wifes, girlfriends and family and in fact in HK there is no executive without a "mistress" pampered as a poodle ( try to ask that extremely well groomed white soft skinny lady wat she does for a living......she may have a very interesting MBA....in boredom other than shopping spicy undies to please his CEO) It is just that westerners, feel more comfortable with our neighbours for cultural reasons. and the Chinese prefer their own mates to hang around too. Indians they dont mix , they are terribly brain washed until they have been into a arranged marriage, and then they start living and experiencing what is the real life. Percentage of Gay in the eastern countries is higher than western....It is all about fake image (marketing) and fearness. We cannot share all the jokes at the same level, the ones that really adapt without fear, are those who grew up between west and east, and believe me, westerners are not saints at all, but we do work hard too!

  • GM
    GM
    14 January 2011

    @Chinese The 'indepent thought' also gave us democracy,... Oops. Am I allowed to say this word around chinese?

    From my personal experience we once hired a bunch of Indians and chinese A grade PhD holders... Biggest mistake ever... You see the problem is that when you tell them to do something,... they will do it... even if what you tell them is wrong. Being disciplined and respectful is good but in quant trading it can also be stupid. Now we have 1 bulgarian and 2 russian quants, and even though they are severe alcoholics and they have a loud and dirty mouth, we know that we can tell them crap and they will correct us.

  • ma
    mathsbloke
    13 January 2011

    Your comparison between the western and Chinese marking systems seeks to achieve what, exactly?

    Your quote: "In the UK.... Prior to 1988, grades for A levels were awarded according to rank: the top tier of candidates got an A, the next got a B and so on. Since 1988, grades have been awarded simply according to the achievement of a specified pass rate.....

    "If a Chinese child gets a B-which would never happen..."

    Either the Chinese system also awards A grades based on "a specified pass rate" (since a B grade isn't, apparently, possible since they're all studying so hard), as per the UK post-1998 system, or China is full of non-Chinese - who go on to get all the B grades (levelling the grade system out).

    Which one is it, or did you need an angle on which to spin a non-story?

    As for Chinese students being far superior.... maths at the crack of dawn is great; if you need high-level maths. How many bankers need high-level maths? Most of the ones I know are borderline innumerate and can't spell.

  • Gi
    Gingerbread man
    12 January 2011

    There are a lot of educated Asians but not a lot of Nobel Prize and Fields Medal Laureates in their numbers, maybe time will tell. I will keep an open, till then I am going back to my goat herding on the African plains.

  • Ch
    Chinese
    12 January 2011

    Ian, the 'indepent thought' you refer to cost us 2 financial crisis and 2 world wars...

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