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How hard is it to secure a full-time position if you haven't completed an internship this year?

Students with aspirations to break into investment banking in 2011 have to face the fact that majority of full-time places will have been filled by the previous year's intake of summer interns before firms even embark on campus recruitment.

But to what extent this year have full-time places been taken up by intern conversations?

J. P. Morgan is in the unique position of admitting that all of its full-time graduate places within investment banking (encompassing M&A/corporate finance and capital markets) and sales, trading and research have been filled by its internship programme.

This leaves the not particularly auspicious options of operations, technology, private banking and investment banking risk open to external applications.

One former head of graduate recruitment at a bulge bracket bank, who now works as head of the careers service at a prominent UK business school, says investment banks are already saying they want to present to students "to talk about next year's summer internships and nothing else".

"It's fairly common practice to leave the application system open when there are only a few positions left and these can be very specialised. In reality the majority would have been filled by summer interns and there's little chance of vanilla candidates securing a role," they say. "I'm not saying all banks are doing that this year, but it's easy to over-estimate the number of opportunities firms are recruiting externally for."

But is it really that grim this year? Based on conversations with recruitment sources and the investment banks themselves we've compiled the following (if you disagree let us know):

Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Divisions recruiting for: Compliance, global capital markets, global corporate banking, global investment banking, global market operations, global quantitative research, global research, sales & trading, technology, global treasury solutions, HR, Merrill Lynch wealth management, corporate & financial institutions debt products.

Number of positions: Approx. 200.

Vacancies within: All divisions

Proportion of positions filled by interns: Declined to comment.

Barclays Capital

Divisions recruiting for: Compliance, corporate communications, finance, global financial risk management, global marketing, human resources, investment banking, legal, operations, quantitative analytics, research, sales, structuring, technology, trading.

Number of positions: 300

Vacancies within: All divisions

Proportion of positions filled by interns: Declined to comment.

Citi

Divisions recruiting for: Capital markets origination, corporate banking, global transaction services, investment banking, private bank, sales & trading.

Number of positions: 250

Vacancies within: All divisions

Proportion of positions filled by interns: 60%

Credit Suisse

Divisions recruiting for: Fixed income trading and structuring, equity trading and structuring, IT, Investment banking department, equity sales, fixed income sales, equity research, IT (non-technical), fixed income research, operations

Number of positions: 275

Vacancies within: All divisions

Proportion of positions filled by interns: Declined to comment

Deutsche Bank

Divisions recruiting for: Asset management, corporate investment banking, finance, HR, in-house consulting, legal, risk and capital, group technology and operations, private & business clients, private wealth management, regional management.

Number of positions: 700 (globally)

Vacancies within: All divisions

Proportion of positions filled by interns: Approximately two thirds

Goldman Sachs

Divisions recruiting for: Finance, global compliance, global investment research, human capital management, legal, internal audit, investment banking, investment management, merchant banking, operations, securities, services and technology.

Number of positions: Around 300

Vacancies within: All divisions

Proportion of positions filled by interns: 70%

J.P Morgan

Divisions recruiting for: Asset management, IB risk, investment banking, operations and business services, private bank, sales, trading & research, technology.

Number of positions: Unknown

Vacancies within: All divisions except investment banking and sales, trading & research.

Proportion of positions filled by interns: Unknown

Morgan Stanley

Divisions recruiting for: Investment banking, global capital markets, sales & trading, equity research, real estate investing, credit risk management, private wealth management, technology, finance & operations.

Number of positions: Around 250

Vacancies within: All divisions, but majority of roles in global capital markets and sales & trading have been filled by interns. Students advised to check bank's website for updates on vacancies.

Proportion of positions filled by interns: 50-60%

Nomura

Divisions recruiting for: Investment banking, global markets and corporate infrastructure (incl. IT, operations and finance)

Number of positions: Around 200

Vacancies within: All divisions.

Proportion of positions filled by interns: Declined to comment.

Royal Bank of Scotland

Divisions recruiting for: Global banking and markets, operations, technology, corporate banking, finance, risk, marketing

Number of positions: Around 600 (400 of which in investment bank)

Vacancies within: All divisions.

Proportion of positions filled by interns: Unavailable for comment.

UBS

Divisions recruiting for: IBD, equities, FICC, operations, finance, technology, risk, COO, HR, compliance, global wealth management.

Number of positions: Around 300.

Vacancies within: All divisions.

Proportion of positions filled by interns: Declined to comment.

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AUTHORPaul Clarke
  • po
    postgrad long back
    2 November 2010

    Yes, it's true Finance is the hardest to get into. I had an ML internship years ago and still after I wasn't able to secure a proper placement, adn so I went on to do a Masters and because I loved it so much and got a distinction I am now going to do a PhD! So who cares anynore!!

  • 3r
    3rd Year Student
    26 October 2010

    & That is a very good question. Someone reply to it please.

  • gr
    graduate
    26 October 2010

    Final year student...yes that is a good shout! Lots of people on my intern program had already graduated and had no intention of doing a masters. The internship is pretty invaluable in terms of realising exactly what you want to do - plus looking at the above it seems it's their main way of recruiting!

  • Fi
    Final Year Student
    19 October 2010

    If what is being reported is true, then it seems that one would really be in a disadvantage if the penultimate year summer internship was not secured.

    In this case, would it be advisable for a graduating student to apply for the coming summer internship and go for a masters after that instead of just applying for a graduate job?

    Thanks. :)

  • fo
    former intern
    14 October 2010

    Most of these vacancies will be in Risk, Operations, Finance, Tech - for FO roles 95-100% roles have gone.

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