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GUEST COMMENT: Excuse me, but who are you to ask me why I haven't got a degree?

So, let me get this straight....you are one of the geeks who helped invent the raft of derivatives that blew the world economy into the weeds. Somehow, despite your desk of 22 year old nerds decking billions of dollars and forcing the real world to bail you out, you managed to hang onto your 'European head of blah....' role. Well done.

By contrast, having been forced out of my own, 'Head of' role by one of your geeky mates, I have spent the past five years in a much reduced capacity in Hedgefundland.

My only crime? Being a bond dinosaur in the newfangled world of Three Letter Acronyms (TLAs). Yet now, at your behest, I sit before you because you want me to return to the fold. Cash bonds are back, your TLAs are so 2007.

Your teenage 'F9' monkeys wouldn't know a bond if it rushed up and bit them on their virginal white bottoms; so here we sit, uneasily eyeing each other. Even as you regard me, 8 years your senior, through your little round stainless steel specs, you can't quite bring yourself to give it up, can you?

Your opening gambit as you seek to woo me to come and rebuild your cash trading business from the dying embers?

"Don't you find that you don't have a degree a real disadvantage in our line of business?"

I resist the temptation to push back my chair and return from my 'dentist's appointment' to the loving embrace of my Mayfair employer. The reality is that despite you and your cohort having besmirched the good name of 'investment banker', I am drawn as a moth to a flame, back to the sellside. I want to work in banking again.

But before I commit, I want to see whether you have taken the medicine and admitted the faults of the past few years. Your opening question suggests not. Despite droning on about how the, "cash business is at the core of our strategy going forward," I know in my heart of hearts that this is a façade.

Asking me why I haven't got a degree is calculated to prey upon the one weakness in my long and (though I say so myself), pretty glittering CV. In that moment you reveal to me the cancer that lies at the heart of your bank: you have no humility. You are not prepared to accept that you were wrong, to ask me for the help you need to rebuild a business and focus on what banks are supposed to do - raise money for borrowers and syndicate that risk to a wider market.

Instead, you hide behind your habit of interrupting and talking over the top of me, whilst resorting to trying to pick holes in my education of nearly 30 years ago.

The answer to your question, by the way, is "no." Nobody, in the 28 years and 6 jobs I have held has ever mentioned my lack of a degree when it has come to assessing my worth for a role.

And yes...given how badly you screwed up, despite your university education, I do resent you asking.

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  • Fr
    Frank
    2 November 2010

    .Its quite appalling but it is the truth. I received a 2.2 from Middlesex University, and I have been struggling to even get into operations. I think what most recruiters fail to recognise is that you can have all the skills and competencies that somebody with a 1st or 2.1 has.

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    R
    29 October 2010

    The majority of the comments in this topic appear to have come from chauvinistic self obsessed chest beating idiots. A degree is only a cosmetic piece of paper to dress your CV up, majority of the cases doesn't mean squat unless you're a highly specialised masters/ phd in some quant subject. 90% of the so called well educated Oxbridge front office job worthy graduates I've come across couldn't tell the constituents of a balance sheet or tell a loan from a capital injection, let alone work in front office ! They seem to be more busy kissing a** or the women puckering up their pouts or pushing their frontal assets almost outta their dresses ! Pathetic. Any good experienced recruiter internal/ external should be able to judge a candidate before taking them on, which doesn't happen that often. They seem to be more enchanted by the Big4 and the Big Uni brand name !

    Its a vicious cycle !

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    blobby
    29 October 2010

    I guess nowadays u need a degree. I went to a red brick, grad in eng have good a's and work in banking. I think for back office u dont need a degree and front office should be reserved for good grads from good unis. what about poly's or new uni's ? well they're just crap.hahahahahhahaahha

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    Amicus Curiae
    28 October 2010

    While many skills necessary in banking cannot be learned in university, higher education generally adds one's overall development as a well-rounded professional. In business (and in life) its essential to have a broad understanding of so many areas and this is where university (both undergraduate and graduate degrees) adds value. Its the formative years at university where one is exposed to novel ideas and subjects, learns and develops analytical thinking, hones research and writing skills, engages in group communication, and generally learns a whole host of other skill sets. Of course, some of these are experienced in the classroom and some are extracurricular; but, at the end of the day, accomplishing the degree verifies a certain level of exposure to these areas. It then gives some indication that the individual has the base skills necessary to advance in the complex and evolving professional world we live in.

    I'm sorry the author didn't have the chance to get to university - it is likely he would have a more open-minded approach to higher education. Perhaps he would also realize that times change.

  • al
    alan
    28 October 2010

    what a useless article. sarah - isn't there something more interesting ?

    People without degree should be banned from financial services work

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