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45% of front office MDs earn two to five times more than risk MDs. Discuss.

Senior risk professionals are empowered. These days they have their own reporting structure to the head of the business, intervene heavily in pay decisions, and can't be overruled by obnoxious traders.

They are also paid slightly more. But they are still paid a lot less than their counterparts in the front office.

Last week's banking compensation study from the Institute of International Finance and Oliver Wyman revealed that in very many cases, front office MDs are still earning many multiples more than the risk MDs who are supposed to be controlling them. In 45% of cases they are better paid to the tune of 200-500%.

Pity the underpaid risk managers

And this is despite efforts to make sure risk managers' pay isn't totally eclipsed by the front office.

The report points to measures such as the appointment of Risk 'SWAT-teams' comprised of (higher paid) former traders who support the CRO or investigate risk issues on an ad hoc basis, and the rotation of front office people into risk roles..

When it comes down to it though, paltry risk pay is hardly surprising. Priya Mariannie, head of the risk practice at recruitment firm PSD Group, says total comp for a global head of risk is 300k, which is merely a front office salary for an MD at many banks these days.

Miles Kennedy, a partner in the risk management practice at PWC, says it's best to get over the terrible risk pay injustice however. "Some discrepancy's inevitable - people in risk aren't revenue generators. The real issue is how pay for people in risk and the front office is determined," he says.

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AUTHORSarah Butcher Global Editor
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    betaadjusted
    20 October 2010

    Heh Dominic,

    so you don't agree with Talib's conclusion, that most traders are simply following a trend and blow-up eventually? or do you believe that since they are 'higher quality individuals' they simply deserve to be paid more? I'm fairly sure this is demonstrably untrue in fact, if you use educational achievement as a metric. And if you don't use that, what do you use? because the interview process is even less efficient than the jumping through hoops that education requires; at least for that one must have persisted for 20 odd years and come out top-decile. Career progression is sadly more a matter of luck and office politics. To say that money is a measure of ability/quality is very flawed, even in banking.

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    gg
    28 September 2010

    Total comp for a Global Head of Risk is 300k? What rubbish. Maybe at a building society.....

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    Anti-DC
    9 September 2010

    Oh Connor, there are many more reasons you are unpopular (such as poor attempts at creating moronic management-speak such as 'visible productivity'). Also, you write like a child....

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    Dominic Connor, Quant Headhunt
    9 September 2010

    The key term here is 'visible productivity'...

    You can see what certain types of employee do for the business, but not others.
    A risk manager may save a firm from a colossal loss, through the implementation of a coherent measurement and exposure system.

    No one will ever know.

    A trader has a P&L that he can point to.

    Also, it's not at all clear that we can compare pay as easily as some would like to believe.
    Some part of banking pay much better than others, and so get a better choice of staff. It's rational to assume that the better paid parts have better people, on average.
    So when we say "a VP in risk gets less than a VP in front office' we are not comparing identical people.

    I doubt if this idea make me popular.

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    Sony Croquet
    8 September 2010

    The only result from that asimmetry is that every risk manager wants to get a front office position, and in order to get there, they collude with traders, to be friendly.

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