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HSBC is quite a good payer, and other incredible revelations from the UK bonus tax (updated)

As well as announcing their second quarter results, banks have been announcing how much they've been paying in the UK bonus tax.

The Wall Street Journal had a round-up a few days ago, but here we have a far more comprehensive round-up, which is also in dollars for easy comparability.

Given the amount paid in bonus tax is 50% of the amount paid in bonuses worth more than 25k, the figures quoted by banks amount to an indication of how large their bonus pools were last year.

We have listed them below.

Unsurprisingly, Goldman's pool was the most fathomless and Standard Chartered was akin to a gnat's teardrop. More surprisingly, HSBC didn't pay in signed photographs of Michael Geoghan, and BarCap doesn't appear to have paid very well at all (originally we said Deutsche hadn't paid very well, but they've enlightened us as to the true extent of their bonus tax payments).

UK bonus tax payments

Standard Chartered $58m*

UBS $288m*

RBS $321m*

BarCap $327m*

HSBC $355m*

Morgan Stanley $361m

Citigroup $404m

Credit Suisse $429m

Deutsche $445m

JPMorgan $550m

Goldman Sachs $600m

* Preliminary figures

Obviously, the true depths of banks' generosity depend upon the number of people they actually employ in London. This is not something they generally divulge. HSBC, for example employs around 8,000 people in its Canary Wharf office, but some of them are canteen assistants and retail banking professionals.

On the whole, however, it seems JPMorgan, UBS, Credit Suisse and BofA all employ somewhere between 5,500 and 6,000 people each in the City (Deutsche says it employs 8,000), suggesting that Goldman did pay handsomely. For Goldman bankers in London, this could make 2010 all the more shocking.

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AUTHORSarah Butcher Global Editor
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    Thetruthisoutthere
    25 July 2010

    HSBC is quite a good payer???????
    You have got to be kidding me Sarah. Is this the twilight zone or bazarro world or something.

    Yes you have mentioned the fact that HSBC employs canteen professionals and Retail banking staff, but you have also missed out that HSBC is such a poor IB, that it requires 3 times the analysts, accountants, operations clerks and product controllers just to keep its head above water let alone compete with the other IBs.

    The real coin goes to bankers who have joined HSBC (after being poached) from Nomura, JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, CS, UBS and to a lessor extent DB. You will find these people in the very front office, doing the exact same job they were performing at their previous employer. This is the only way HSBC can compete. This is why HSBC knows it must pay these massive bonuses to a select few. This is why you bonus figures look so odd.

    Sarah your headline article should read, 'HSBC is quite a good payer to a select few', although I doubt you would have received as many responses. ;)

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    szympek
    24 July 2010

    RB Drone - chill out dude. it's Sat, light up the bbq and take it easy for a day...

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    RB Drone
    24 July 2010

    I get it retail financial professionals are just above canteen assistants in the food chain. Given the reason for this site is to sell recruitment services in all financial sectors, I wonder how many people Sarah is pissing off with this constant IB chatter. Yes IBs make more money but I am sure the true big hitters dont waste there time reading all thIs bonus and salary bravado from the junior IB crowd and no mark "journalists"

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    BB
    23 July 2010

    also depends on which banks have increased base salaries, and in which proportion, I presume...

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