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GUEST COMMENT: I asked the CEO to help me move out of the middle office

I'm a recent graduate. I have stellar academic qualifications and am passionate about becoming a trader. Unfortunately, however, I currently reside in the darkest shadows of the middle office.

Even worse, I am located in a non-front office building, making it extremely difficult to network, and almost impossible to meet anyone not doing something very similar to me.

It was cause for excitement, therefore, when four months into this role, I was invited to a middle office meeting in the front office building. Knowing that our CEO also happens to be based in that building, I decided to take a shot on meeting him.

Wearing my best French-collared shirt, and with my hair slicked back, I entered the trading floor as someone else swiped in. I quickly located his office; he had just come off the phone. I walked speedily past the secretary, knocked on the door (feeling quite confident), and enquired politely if I could have a moment of his time.

I then described my qualifications, my aptitude and passion for trading, the market views I had at the time relating to the strength of the dollar based on risk aversion and a slowdown in Europe, my returns from trading my own money etc.

What else could they want?

He was straight to the point with his response, stating that my qualifications sounded quite average compared to what's on the floor. He also emphasised the merits of the bank's graduate recruitment process.

At this point I was in trouble. I had the sensation that I was in the headmaster's office, and wasn't entirely welcome.

I asked if a Masters in finance from Oxbridge would help? Bemused, he asked if I was here for a job or advice. Both, I stated. I was going have to do it the hard way, and go back to school. His advice was to go get an MBA, from a top school. This would virtually guarantee me a place in an investment bank. And not to worry about the money, it will be worth it in the end. I thanked him for his time, and quickly departed.

In a way, I am still pleased with the encounter. Let me tell you why. There are people, who have worked there, 5-6 years, even on the trading floor, who have never spoken to the CEO, he doesn't know who they are, probably never will. And like Wayne Gretzky says, "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take".

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  • El
    Elaine
    30 August 2011

    Good for you. I also communicated regularly with my CEO - of course, it cost me my job, but that was the price I was willing to pay. HR really, really, really don't like people talking to the CEO of any bank - and as for your line management, if they ever find out.....!!!!

    I hope you followed up your chat with an email thanking him for his time. My email correspondence with my CEO was a lot more important to me than the job I had - and two and a half years after leaving that bank, I'm still regularly in touch with him. You will never know when or where that contact will come in useful. I have to say, I'm not that impressed with the advice he gave you, but in fairness to him, it doesn't sound like you were properly prepared for that meeting either. People don't like surprises. If you had prepared him for that meeting it would have been more productive for both of you. When I went to see mine, I had prepared myself for two weeks beforehand, and it was obvious. When I asked him if I had wasted him time, he said "You never have".

    You've got guts to do that - but sometimes it's better to put up with the slow role, until you've got yourself in the right position for the n

  • ba
    bankeuse1
    4 October 2010

    sounds like a "benedix" approach to me! Don't have the guts to do something like that myself so kudos to you for doing that! But given my situation now, I'd die for a M-O job!

  • ra
    raburrows
    23 August 2010

    Everyone has advice for others but he tried and that is a goodthing and noble quality. Well done keep working hard and always keep your options open. You want to be a trader? Well just forget the money and go with your heart and get a trading position that will allow you to learn but be ready for little money is return. Best of luck anyone who tries this.

  • kh
    khyam2002
    22 August 2010

    Only one thing i would add here.. if i was a CEO and reading this, my advice would be to go and meet some publisher, you are good story teller not a trader,,, secondly if all is true so you must be doing MBA now.. come on guys education alone not gonna give you all the confidence and money is not everything either.

    remember, do the right and fear no man..
    you will be fine

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    p_vaness
    1 August 2010

    A good friend should have able to let you know this. or a trader you interact with, which could have thought of you if junior position arises, or forward on key information knowing you are interested.
    But regardless the courage, if everyone does this, the CEO's function wouldn't be well managed by the CEO.

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