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Why banks should hire from second rate schools

Banks are notoriously choosy about where they find MBAs. In Europe, their hunting grounds are restricted to LBS, INSEAD, IESE, and Bocconi. MBA students from other institutions are usually overlooked.

However, the Wall Street Journal's law blog offers an interesting perspective on why banks should think about broadening their MBA intakes to include students from the likes of the University of Leicester's School of Management.

It cites an academic study published in the American Lawyer, which showed that students taken from elite law schools tend to be comparatively dissatisfied with their jobs:

' Interviews with lawyers in this group reveal that they do not want to work the long hours generally required at law firms, and they especially do not want to put in those hours patiently for ten years to compete for the partnership prize. This is a relatively privileged group that expects to do well in life.'

By comparison, the study found law students from second tier schools diligent and delighted to be given a chance to get ahead.

The same argument could surely be applied to top tier MBAs, who also tend to be a relatively privileged group with high expectations?

Even if it does, the head of recruitment at one international bank says it wouldn't make a difference to hiring policies. "The real value of an MBA is the people they made relationships with at school," he says. "If you hire from a second tier school, the relationships will be a lower calibre."

However, he says it makes sense to take students from second tier schools at undergraduate level. "If you take the top tier from the likes of Rutgers or Cornell in the US, they're still very, very bright. They're also very grateful and willing to work their ars*s off."

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AUTHORSarah Butcher Global Editor
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    Isaac
    18 September 2009

    @JohnWhite - actually I got into M&A via a graduate scheme at the start of the decade. No coffee fetching, no satellite sites, and no triumph of experience over ability (which I view just as critically as hiring exclusively from top tier schools). However, I will give you half a point for guessing that I am management grade.

    Scared for my own existence? Hardly. Scared for the future of the industry? Somewhat, particularly if it continues to recruit people who have only ever experienced tremendous personal success (which I am guessing is true of yourself) and thus probably have a diminished ability to anticipate, understand and learn from failure, because they've never experienced it.

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    JohnWhite
    14 September 2009

    @ Isaac Hunt -

    haha you go and salt those fries...

    on a serious note, i bet i know your background. You are a bitter dinosaur . Someone who hasnt got a degree or has a degree but from a second rate university. You have made it into top tier banking because when you joined the "Graduate Schemes" that top IBs now use to hire fresh blood with didnt exist. You were hired in the era when you could leave school at 16 and work your way up from being a coffee boy or ticker runner in the dealing room.You are someone who is currently taking up a seat at a top IB but who is bitter because it took them 10 years to get there via working in numerous "satellite sites" or in less lucrative parts of the bank before finally catching a break into the sexy investment banking arm. Because of your "experience" (not ability) you probably head a desk now or are management grade (director level) but are bitter because you are seeing smarter 21 year old oxbridge grads and slightly older MBAs come in on the sort of money it took you years to work up to.

    Am I close? are you sick of seeing new graduates with sexy and advanced degrees stealing your thunder? are you scared for your own existence?

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    Isaac Hunt
    11 September 2009

    JohnWhite - you are right, my "dye" has been cast. I must now stop with this pretence and get back to salting those fries (I didn't do well enough in my GCSEs to flip the burgers).

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    JohnWhite
    11 September 2009

    in response to Issac Hunt's comment -
    "IB is supposed to be about employing the smartest, hungriest people. Its supposed to be a meritocracy of the finest."

    Issac - the meritocracy starts at aged 15 my friend. I agree with your point, but you shoot yourself in the foot with it, because it only serves to invalidate you own opinion and validate Merlin's argument. IBs DO hire the smartest people around as you say. that is true. that is precisely why they do not hire from universities from "way outside the top 50." IBs know that the meritocracy starts at aged 15. they know that you only get into a top uni if you had great A-Levels and great GCSEs to back that up with (i.e. a consistent high achiever rather than a lazy genius). Therefore at age 15, the "smartest and hungriest" students have the foresight to recognise that if they slam dunk their GCSEs and then do the same at A-Level, it practically assures them of a place at a top Uni and therefore interviews for internships and potentially graduate jobs at IBs. You my friend have found yourself at a sub standard uni because you were not a consistent high achiever. Your dye has been cast ever since you got those mediocre GCSEs.

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    Sarah, Editor, eFinancialCaree
    11 September 2009

    @Douche. Thank you. I guess the guy I spoke to may have confused the courses.

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