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The virtues (or not) of working for a part-nationalised bank

Now that bankers at RBS, Barclays Capital and possibly HSBC are all en route to becoming public-sector employees, what are the implications for their job security and compensation?

Given that the government won't have shareholder voting rights in the banks it's recapitalising, it's not going to be telling banks to put staff into early retirement and pay them a state pension. The only upside for job security is that the banks involved won't be going into administration any time soon - not that this was ever really an option anyway.

Instead, the real impact of public cash is likely to be felt in bankers' pockets. There are strings attached, and one of them is hooked onto limits on executive pay. The FSA is already promising to create a new code of conduct governing pay and bonuses.

Richard Everett, former head of the legal team at the FSA and a partner at law firm LG, says the FSA's pay restrictions are likely to apply to traders, not just board members. He also says the FSA's intervention is likely to take the form of high-level suggestions rather than specific dictates forbidding traders to earn more than 100k.

Despite this, it would clearly be bad PR for organisations that are taking cash from taxpayers to be seen paying big bonuses to bankers - even if they're in areas that still make money.

A commodities trader at one of the banks involved says he wasn't holding out much hope for bonuses this year anyway. "A lot of the impact of this nationalisation will depend on the terms of the deal, and they haven't been very well drawn out yet."

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AUTHORSarah Butcher Global Editor
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    bc
    10 October 2008

    "Dude" - get over it - many people fail to get into banking

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    Liam
    9 October 2008

    traders work dam hard and should get paid

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    Little Wing
    9 October 2008

    Hindsight is 20:20, the rationale of effectively outsourcing risk management to rating agencies is now clearly flawed but the blame for that can be put on those who subscribed to the belief that the ratings were reflective of EDF.

    This includes not only bankers and asset managers but also the governments who put rating agencies at the heart of Basal regulation which explains why the rating agencies have so far only had a market-based punishment for the misread of risk their ratings gave certain assets.

    I think part of what Stef. has some merit, but at the same time, to simplify for analogy, if we all chose to believe something we thought was somewhere between accurate and half-truth, the blame has to be laid on those who chose to believe, namely, most people, including Warren Buffet who as far as I know, still owns a large portion of Fitch. He wouldn't have bought that if he could have anticipated a change in the value the market gives the products/services Fitch offers.

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    Dude
    9 October 2008

    So much for your Western European capitalism and tall claims that London is the financial centre of the world, a place to build careers, a place to learn & grow in banking, yadayadayadatadatada.

    No more virtuous people remain here. You have all collectively disgraced London, disgraced the so-called developed capital markets, disgraced the universities you studied in, and disgraced the idea of free markets per se.

    The Chinese economic system, however much criticized, is the best in the world. They survived every major crisis, and still retain a strong currency and future prospects.

    What good the collective wisdom of W European & American central banks ?

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    andy gray
    9 October 2008

    stef speaks a lot of sense

    i'm fed up with the mainstream press harping on about city bonuses and fat cats. its a great cover story to distract everyone and wip up a 'it's all the bankers fault' campaign. not everyone on city earns the numbers quoted in the press - and it's not just banks who are to blame. central banks, fsa, fed, govt, ratings agencies played a big part

    but numpty is right steff - take a chill pill. everyone is so brainwashed by the sensational headlines that they cant see beyond what the press tell them and forgot that they have own brain to process whats been published

    you seem bright girl, so come have glass of wine with me and we can put world to rights ;)

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