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Should traders take a break for the sake of the bonus pool?

According to analysis from Financial News, Goldman, Lehman and Morgan Stanley all made trading losses on more days in the first half of this year than the same period of 2007.

Morgan Stanley, for example, lost money on 24 days in the first half of 2008, compared to one day in the first half of 2007. And Goldman lost money on 37 days, against 11 last year.

When all goes well, traders' activities can help boost the bonus pool. But when trades go wrong, they're liable to obliterate it. So should traders be reined in further, or do they need to be given a freer rein? Open your heart below.

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    Paul E Becke
    17 July 2008

    No i dont think experienced traders with good track records should be reigned in, its the risk management side of the biz that needs looking at. Looking at the big picture I believe the strategy for banks to in effect out source there proprietary trading to hedge funds seems prudent whilst they are trying to shore up there balance sheets.

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    jkzh
    16 July 2008

    haveto agrre with JoePa,
    Red Bob seems not to understand much

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    JoePa
    16 July 2008

    Traders provide liquidity to the financial sector and limiting them in this function worsens the liquidity crunch. It may make sense to limit prop trading in such volatile times as the quant models arguably can't handle this kind of market. However, many of them have been doing quite well by bashing and then shorting other investment banks it seems....

    On Red Bob's comment: typical short sighted tunnel view comment from a guy that doesn't understand anything outside his desk/job description (hard fall likely..)

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    Red Bob
    15 July 2008

    My bonus was ok last year, but nowhere near as large as it should have been given the business I brought in. This was thanks to the efforts of the so-called 'boys in fixed income.' Needless to say, many have now been dispensed with, but some of the breed are clearly still in existence. It's time for their bonus pools to be ringfenced and turn negative if they threaten to wipe out the good work of the rest of us.

    So they'll have to work until they're old and bald and about to retire with the rest of the population? So what.

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    Dick Turpin
    15 July 2008

    What you forget is that without trading profits we'd all have been wearing horse-hair shirts long ago.

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