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MBAs first to get dumped

The associate intakes of 2006 and 2007 are being decimated, according to both bankers and the recruiters who are left to pick up the pieces. So what does an MBA with big debts and only one year's banking experience do? Private equity, boutiques, or strategy consulting seem to be the answer.

"Most of the people who've gone from the team are MBAs who joined at the junior associate level," says a VP at one US bank. "Unfortunately, it just makes sense to get rid of them - they have a limited amount of banking experience and they're relatively expensive. They're getting hit particularly hard."

Recruiters confirm that a disproportionate number of recent MBAs are coming through their doors. "We're getting a lot of MBAs coming to us," says Katherine Howe at recruitment firm KHG Partners. "They're either last year's banking intake, or the intake of summer 2006."

Faced with the choice of dumping a recently hired MBA or an analyst who's been nurtured at a bank for several years, Logan Naidu of recruiters The Cornell Partnership, says banks are typically going for the former option. "MBAs are as expensive as third-year analysts, but analysts have spent three years with the firm and know how a deal is put together."

Business schools are a brake on the MBA purge, however. If too many of their alumni are ejected, banks get a bad reputation on campus at the major business schools, which they are anxious to avoid, says Howe: "If you hire a load of MBAs from a top business school and treat them all appallingly, that school might be less inclined to allow you to recruit on campus in the future."

As a result, she says some banks are now letting go of high performing third-year analysts rather than reneging on offers made to MBAs who are joining this year.

MBAs who are dumped by banks do have other options. "The alternatives are boutiques, private equity, corporates, or strategy consulting, depending on experience and background," says Naidu.

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AUTHORSarah Butcher Global Editor
  • IB
    IB MBA
    18 July 2008

    This is pretty low level of debate.

    MBA or no MBA, someone good is someone good and "normally" gets to keep their job. As an MBA at an investment bank with 3 years experience Ive seen my classmates go whether or not they were an analyst or an MBA.

    The fact is there is no business and won't be until banks delever and rid themselves of their leverage loan pool. In terms of cutting people, most banks have reached a point now where good people are also being cut. Ive just accepted a job from a PE fund earning the same as I got in 07 (where I was A rated), but Im not gloating since I really enjoyed IB and whether they had an MBA or not some of the people I worked with were some of the brightest and most hard working people I've met.

    Why don't people just admit that there is a need for MBAs since the attrition rate in the industry is very high. Lets face it there is an equally polemic argument which says that only the really average analysts actually stay in an investment bank.

  • JC
    JC
    18 July 2008

    MBA or no MBA, the arrogance is astounding from most of these postings. Find your happy place people and stop berating others.

  • He
    Henry
    17 July 2008

    Hilarious, "MBA ruler". Firstly, people like myself can move to a buy-side hedge/investment fund whenever we want, there's always opportunities, WITHOUT an MBA. I'm giving it another year here then I'd be able to start as a Portfolio Manager. And an MBA certainly doesn't give you credibility, it probably detracts credibility just as much from people who see MBA on a card /signature and think "chump".

  • MB
    MBA ruler
    17 July 2008

    To the young big swinging d..ks: well, I have an MBA, I joined banking, industry pre-MBA, then after seeing what actually is corp finance (monkeys' stuff), joined an investment fund, working less, earning more. Dealing with CEOs, MDs every days... enjoying screwing bankers that now do the crap stuff for me...

    As part time, thanks to what I have learnt at my MBA, the network, the credibility (yes, MBA give also credibility), I am opening my investment fund with a bunch of other MBAs....

    Let's see who is earning more, dear big swinging d...ks, everyone knows what you guys actually do in banking...you are just like monkeys doing every day the same things (the cut-n-paste stuff for pitching etc). You don't have the skills to manage a start up, that is proven. So pls go back to your excel spreadsheets preparing stuff for those like me.

  • sa
    saurya_s
    17 July 2008

    Tips,
    I happen to be an MBA form one of the institution you have mentioned. I agree that you have broader prospects, however those who are trying to make into fin sector at this time because of MBA are losing as most employers prefer experienced staff considering there is no dearth of them.

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