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Guest comment: Why I will not be moving back to Paris

One French banker in London explains why, despite job losses in the City, he has no plans to go back home soon.

It will soon be five years since my wife and I left France to settle in London. We moved primarily because we had had enough of living in a country where a third of the workforce are public service employees.

Of course, public services are great in France: trains are on time, some have even been travelling at 300kph since 1981; and when you go to a hospital there is always a doctor who seems to be interested in your case. The downside is that those public services are a real weight on the economy. I couldn't bear the thought that I'd have to work until the age of 67 before being able to retire, whilst a bus driver can retire as early as 50, courtesy of the private sector pension funds which the government raids to subsidise public services' pension funds that are in deficit.

Since we have been in London we've done our best to settle in for the long term. I have always worked for 'Anglo-Saxon' companies and declined offers from headhunters to interview with French banks implanted in London. For some reason headhunters assumed that I would be keen to interview with French banks. It might be because I have a strong French accent, even though I've been here for a while.

Retrospectively, I realise that I actually dislike the French approach to work. In France, I used to have to stay late in the office even when I had little to do, as it was frowned upon to leave early. When a transaction is closed, the French like to spend time discussing why they agreed that transaction rather than celebrating or just going home to catch up on some sleep.

They tend always to judge people according to where they studied, not their professional skills. It took me a while to realise that some of the best performing people I worked with in the UK attended universities to which I would not even have considered sending my dog, or had studied unchallenging subjects. In France, they would at best have been allowed a job in the post room or an administrative role, if not relegated to the public sector.

In short, this is a real waste of talent and can lead to financial catastrophes such as occurred at Crédit Lyonnais, where everybody seemed to have come from the same schools with the same misconception of risks.

It is with some delectation, therefore, that I observe from London the unfolding of the SocGen crisis and the French conspiracy theories. The last time I spent so much time reading French websites was when Zidane lost it in the final of the World Cup. It took me two months to recover from the blow. The fact that I was surrounded by three Italians who liked rubbing it in did not help.

The SocGen crisis is different; they overcharged me on my student account. It is almost as if Jérôme is setting the record straight for me all these years later, and unlike the case of Crédit Lyonnais, the taxpayer will not have to pick up the bill.

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  • Ol
    Oli
    7 February 2008

    In the U.K getting into investment banking with an average degree is as difficult if not more than in France. After all, they mostly recruit from oxbridge, imperial, and lse. The same in the U.S, if you studied at Oklahoma state university I doubt it if you can land a mergers and acquisitions role at Goldmans! So being elitist is a characteristic of most if not all western countries. Now regarding the french system, it definitely has its flaws however I thought there were many homeless people in Paris ... until I went to London!!! In London you really have a display of Darwinism : the fittest survive and the others can starve for all I care, that's the Anglo Saxon way. So hearing my compatriots having studied for the most, at the top engineering and business schools in france come over to London dreaming to get rich justify their presence here by doing some france bashing is just about as appalling hypocrisy can get!

  • Jo
    Jonathan, M&A
    5 February 2008

    Dear xxx/Credit,

    To answer your query, I have worked with 2 types of French fin. professionals. The select few that part of their education was abroad (1st degree from Grand Ecoles naturally) & have worked more or less half of their careers outside of France and not necessarily London or NY. And then there are the other ones who have been educated exclusively in France worked for some time there and suddenly because they felt that the government was taxing them too much and the 'big fat bonus' dream in the City was too hard to resist tried to continue their careers here in London. The latter type usually tries to impress upon you their way of thinking and working while the former (being more broad minded) tends to be more flexible. Needless to say in my experience critical mass matters. It is very different having only 1 French person on a deal and as opposed to 3 or more. I found in many occasions with the latter type that had a natural inclination to discuss things that didn't need any discussion what so ever instead of getting on with their job. Hope this suffices and apologizes if my previous answer implied that the French population does not exhibit a normal distribution ;-)

  • An
    Anonymous
    3 February 2008

    god, lets not take things so seriously.
    I'm not french and i agree with some of the facts. But then again no nation is perfect, france or anywhere else. Trying not to be a philsophical f*rt, take the good with the bad!!

    what the hell happened with england vs wales?? it was hilarious!!

  • Qu
    Question to efin
    3 February 2008

    I have been following the site for a while and have always associated it with high quality and a sort of benchmark for others.

    I fail to see what does efinancials seek to achieve by allowing the publiations of such type of articles (complete waste of everyones time..writer and readers)?

    If the objective is to turn away quality viewers/readers so as to attract a "mass", then congratulations...mission accomplished.

  • Ni
    Nick
    2 February 2008

    It is strange to only see such article aginst France, its culture, its system and its people. I have never seen anything like that about the UK, US, etc. where I am forced to assume everything is great there. Is French bashing a kind of popular hobby?
    On the article and some of the comments: I worked for Goldman Sachs on 2 continents; I only met people who graduated from the very top universities/schools of their respective countries. Is this French evil influence?? Was the collapse of Credit Lyonnais a typically French event? Is Northern Rock a French national bank? Regarding long hours in the office in France; may I remind you that French productivity is one of the highest (above UK's), which tend to show that people don't just stay at the office to chat or surf on the net? Please select better the articles put on this site and make more moderate comments on them! Oh, BTW! France still has an economy and it does not rank that bad!

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