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Getting into banking with a PhD

Which banks hire PhDs?

The reality is that most of them do, but they don't all have dedicated PhD hiring programmes.

Among the banks we scrutinized, BNP Paribas, Credit Suisse, Merrill Lynch and JPMorgan hire PhDs into designated programmes with specialist training. UBS and Dresdner hire them as part of their general graduate programmes, and Deutsche Bank hires PhDs on an ad hoc basis into its global markets division.

Which roles are PhDs hired into?

Most banks hire PhDs into markets or research roles that require quantitative skills, particularly quant research. "PhDs can either join research directly, or as generalists in the global markets division," says Joanne Muraya, senior recruiter at Deutsche Bank.

It's also worth bearing in mind that banks will typically accept PhDs into other, non-quantitative roles, but in this case will bring them in as analysts - at the same level as first-degree holders.

How many are hired?

If you're having a problem landing a PhD role in a bank that may be because they're aren't many to go around.

Of the banks we spoke to that gave numbers, JPMorgan hires the most, with 15 people joining each year. Most others hire only a handful: Dresdner hires one or two, Deutsche Bank hires two to three, and BNP Paribas hires up to five.

Right schools, right subjects

How can PhD students stand out from the crowd? The answer is by studying the right subjects at the right schools.

At Deutsche Bank, Muraya says PhD applicants need to be studying one of a number of preferred subjects - maths, natural sciences, economics or finance.

Esther Oxenbury, head of graduate recruitment at JPMorgan, says PhD applicants need to have studied a quant-related discipline - maths, physics, econometrics or statistics, for example.

As with all things, banks also focus on PhDs from a few favoured schools. "In the UK, Imperial is by far the best," says the head of graduate recruitment at one European bank. "Oxford, Cambridge and the London School of Economics are also good."

French schools are also highly prized, particularly Université Paris VI, École Polytechnique, École Normale, École Nationale de la Statistique et de l'Administration Économique (ENSAE) and Université Paris Dauphine, from which students are often admitted to PhD-level roles after studying only a DEA or advanced MSc.

Application deadlines

Deadlines for PhD applications have officially passed at both UBS and BNP Paribas, although the latter still has vacancies posted on its careers site. JPMorgan hires PhDs on a rolling basis. Deutsche's full-time PhD programme is already full, but the bank is still welcoming applications from PhDs interested in internships, with a deadline of 15 January.

Merrill Lynch's full-time applications deadline is 31 January for PhDs. Goldman has a rolling deadline for PhD positions in its strategies group. Its PhD internship deadline officially closed on 28 December, but it says it's still receiving applications.

The deadline for full-time applicants to the Credit Suisse quant programme is 8 March, and the deadline for summer internship quant applications at the Swiss bank is 14 April.

Pay

Most banks hire PhDs into associate pay brackets (i.e. on a par with MBAs). Successful applicants can expect to earn a salary in the region of 55k to 60k, plus a bonus of around 50-100%.

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    Tony
    29 June 2010

    How can banks discriminate against PhD graduates when they have no idea about the individuals research or even their degree! One person may have studied 'New Polymers to Make Switchable Adhesives' from say Imperial College, and the second student may have studied 'Modeling fluid flow via CFD and experimental analysis' and this was studied at South Bank Uni
    Now how does a HR person or any person in the bank know which subject is harder, as an eng graduate I can tell you for sure that the latter subject studied at South Bank Uni is much harder! Thus discriminating against PhD's is wrong as PhD's cannot be treated as a taught subject like normal graduate degrees, they are on another level to normal graduates and all have exceptional skills to offer! PhD's should be treated differently and the person should be judged on their knowledge, potential to learn and skills, not from where they graduated!

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    Dave Smith
    29 June 2010

    Why does it matter where you have done your PhD? They are examined by an external examiner from that specialist field, so in what way have they been taught by the university, the answer is they havent been taught by the uni, as a PhD is a self study program of research into a particular field. I am a student at Imperial College, and I know students from universities such as Hertfordshire, Queen Marys etc that are smarter than I am. My research field is Mechanical Engineering, and I can honestly say that some friends I have at the aforementioned uni's are smarter than me. Employers need to realise that a PhD is a self study program, and applicants from the fields of Maths, Physics and Engineering should all be treated the same as they have the skills and knowledge that many individuals in banks currently lack a lof of. Employers need to open their eyes and understand that PhD's in the fields mentioned above can offer alot to banks and it doesnt matter which university they have come from!

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    Mike
    13 April 2008

    Imperial, LSE, LBS and Cass are the four best educational institutions in the UK by far. All the others in the UK are way behind, including Oxford and Cambridge. They may be the oldest universities in the UK, but they are simply too out-dated for the world of work! That's not my view, that's the experience of companies that have recruited these people

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    yingbo
    15 February 2008

    I dont understand what hype about IC all about, clearly a quantitative PHD from Cam or Oxford is by far better

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    FO PhD
    10 February 2008

    Have a look at BGI, the biggest and best quant shop around.

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