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Women on Wall Street Say Female-Focused Programs Work

More than 2,500 women gathered in New York on Oct. 16 for the 13th annual Women on Wall Street conference, themed, "It's Your Move: Driving Change in Your Career and Life."

Keynote speaker Brenda Barnes, Sara Lee Corp.'s chief executive, observed that despite corporations' efforts, senior leadership positions remain woefully devoid of women. Indeed, top investment banks, accounting firms and multinationals have pioneered ways to help competent women break into the male-dominated C-suites. While accounts of networking groups, courses on promoting your accomplishments and goal-setting sound good in news articles, what's the impression of the women at whom such programs are aimed?

From an administrative assistant to a partner, people we spoke with at the conference overwhelmingly positive about their employers' efforts to retain and promote women. All spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Tales From the Trenches

One woman who works in sales at an investment management firm said that while the motivations for starting such programs weren't always altruistic, they have been successful. "They didn't always start for the right reason - there may have been a lawsuit, or a client said they wanted to work with a company with women in top management," she said. "But once they foster that integration, it opens communication and the organization can see the benefit. But you have to make a business case for (promoting women). No one is going to do it out of the goodness of their hearts."

A manager in asset management said she is so impressed with her firm's support of employees' life changes and challenges, she's sticking with the company in anticipation of starting a family within the next few years - even though she is eager to change career paths and the appropriate opportunity for that hasn't yet arisen at her firm. "I would love to advance, but it is not the right time at my company," she said. "But I'm very loyal to the firm."

This manager added that she sees many senior women at her bank informally mentoring younger women, though networking events that had integrated the genders have fallen off in recent years due to budget cuts. "A lot of networking is done outside the company, and naturally women convene with women, and men convene with men," she said.

An investment bank assistant vice president was impressed that her firm is paying for her MBA, though she finds the courses designed to help women promote themselves have been hit and miss. "Some are too generic - telling you to figure out what you want to do, for example," she said. At the same time, she has learned concrete skills that she hopes will get her ahead.

Asserting Yourself: A Real-Life Lesson

Disappointed that a male colleague who did comparable work was promoted to vice president, she asked her boss for an explanation and learned the man had explicitly asked how to get promoted - something this woman assumed would happen once her hard work was recognized. Experts say this is classic female behavior that holds women back from reaching top positions.

That experience, paired with lessons learned at previous Women on Wall Street conferences as well as her bank's courses for women, taught the woman to be more explicit in naming her goals. "Next time I'm going to ask for what I want," she said.

A partner at a Big Four accounting firm is passionate that her company's plethora of efforts to promote women do in fact work - even though it has taken some time to get the organization's men on board. When female employees attended such events during business hours, some male employees would chide: "'The girls are going off to their tea party,'" the partner said. But after some lecturing about growing the company, as well as seeing that "what started out as a woman's program has evolved into a people program," that tune has changed. One man recently went on a part-time schedule to accommodate his competitive cycling training and competition schedule - thanks to a work-life policy with roots in maternity leave.

The firm just wrapped up its first course designed to identify top female managers and offer them networking opportunities and introductions to senior women executives. Feedback was tremendous. "The participants were overwhelmed. They said this was just what they needed," the partner said. "These programs definitely aren't lip service."

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  • Go
    Got the Promotion
    1 November 2007

    Communication is key to getting promoted. Your male boss isn't psychic & you don't communicate in the same way a man does -- so you have to LEARN how to communicate with them & continually reinforce what value you add. Document all your achievements & present them in hard copy memo form PRIOR to your performance review. Ask for the promotion / raise. Yes to getting boss on your side: given ur achievements, ask for their advice how to get where you want to go. 6 books & some consultation boosted my confidence enormously & my life changed. 1. Jack Chapman: Negotiating Your Salary; How to Make $1000 a Minute. HIRE THIS GUY. Helps you customize a pitch & practices. It works!! 2. Miller: A Woman's Guide to Successful Negotiating. 3. Peggy Klaus: BRAG! The Art of Tooting Your Own Horn w/o Blowing it. 4. Lois Frankel: Nice Girls Don't Get the Corner Office; 101 Unconscious Mistakes Women Make That Sabotage Their Careers. 5. Miller: Get More Money on Your Next Job. 6. Robin Pinkley & Gregory Northcraft: Get Paid What You're Worth. Bottom line: stop complaining & learn what proactive steps you need to take to make the changes you want to really happen. It worked for me. :-D

  • Di
    Disagreeable Female
    25 October 2007

    To add to comment above, I verbalized my intent on getting promoted(during a downturn) and was not so long after fired for no good reason. I almost sued but decided to get another job instead. I later found out my senior (a male) who was afraid of being replaced by me had a lot to do with it. Bottom line: be very careful of the politics especially when you work with insecure but influential people. Upshot: It was the biggest blessing in disguise as I ended up on a much better career track after that.

  • Ga
    Gabrielle
    23 October 2007

    "Disappointed that a male colleague who did comparable work was promoted to vice president, she asked her boss for an explanation and learned the man had explicitly asked how to get promoted - something this woman assumed would happen once her hard work was recognized. Experts say this is classic female behavior that holds women back from reaching top positions." I would say that this is actually a classic example of a culture problem that rewards pushiness and ensures that those who shout loudest (rather than those who do the best work) get to the top first. This kind of culture is self-perpetuating - when the loud, shouty men get to the top of the tree they promote others on the same basis - but ultimately doesn't do the bank any favours. Isn't it actually in banks' best interests to reward employees on the basis of their performance and merit, rather than on whether the employee has specifically asked for promotion?

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