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Is Goldman hiding something?

Could it be Goldman Sachs isn't doing incredibly well, and won't be coughing up copious amounts of cash at bonus time after all?

Fortune magazine suggests Goldman's 79% increase in 3Q net income was more down to clever accounting than to clever prop traders.

It apparently turns out that nearly 65% of Goldman's gargantuan 4bn profits were derived from unrealized profits on complex derivatives which were marked to Goldman's own models rather than to an unforgiving and illiquid market.

Fortune quotes Charles Peabody, an analyst at Portales Partners, who describes Goldman's accounting as "opaque" and says, "A lot of these losses were real and a lot of their gains were paper, and that's something we'd like to know more about."

Goldman is predictably unhappy that aspersions are being cast on its third-quarter levitation act. The Telegraph quotes a bank spokesman who says suggestions of inflated paper gains were "preposterous", and that "We do this for a living. It is impossible to manage your risk if you don't know the value of your assets."

What do you think? Can Goldmanites still count on portly payouts? Or are its profits a question of wishful thinking?

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AUTHORSarah Butcher Global Editor
  • mm
    mmmm
    23 February 2008

    wink*, what are you saying ?

  • wi
    wink*
    20 October 2007

    happily a former drone for Goldman Sucks, I know they fudge their numbers...hummmmm when you are #1...there is only one way you can move...down! I hope they all get flown to Chennai in coach for a change!

  • un
    unknown
    19 October 2007

    I hope this profit is genuine? Anywhere GM is about the best in the industry we would expect they must carried out some smart transactions to generate such good profit. All the best GS

  • lu
    ludrik
    17 October 2007

    It seems that Goldman is cooking something in its book. Whatever it is, I hope it will feed not, only the wolves, but also the hungry sheeps.

  • Fa
    Face off
    17 October 2007

    Long live Goldman Sachs.. Long live the Greed Machine

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