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Indian talent doesn't travel

Banks are busily building teams to assemble pitch books and conduct research in India. But that doesn't meant they're open to hiring Indians in London.

"We get a couple of hundred CVs a month from India," says one London recruiter. "The people there are really well educated and smart, but generally we can't help them out."

Earlier this year, it emerged that Merrill Lynch had invested US$11m in Copal Partners, an Indian company which helps assemble pitch books and provides research. Deutsche Bank and Citi are also among the banks thought to be using the services of Indians to do corporate finance grunt work.

The recruiter we spoke to says Copal Partners is one of the main sources of CVs coming out of India: "We get a lot of people saying they do analysis for Morgan Stanley, and they'd like to do the same thing in London."

Few banks are willing to hire people with experience of working in Indian servicing companies, however. "I don't know what it is," says the recruiter. "They're all very good, but banks just won't go there."

As an alternative, he advises Indian candidates to get a job for banks themselves in India and transfer internally to the UK, or to work for one of the Big Four accountancy firms in London and then apply to banking.

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  • Dr
    Drake DTP
    31 December 2007

    I have worked with Indian Pitch book assemblers, it was my job in London, and it took 3 to 5 Indians to the work I did - and yes, you can hire 5 of them for 1 of me. It was always a cost cutting measure, and the bosses behind it ignored the screw up the Indians made. I'm serious. Costs have to be cut, regardless of the outcome. Isn't that Finance in a nutshell? Indians - there's more than a cultural gap that drags them down - it's a way of thinking, ie, stretching a job. And, I had to compete with them for my job - so I left - and go Freelance. Outsourcing looks good on a balance sheet but not at the furnace.

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    anonymous
    2 October 2007

    my dear Indian men, stop bragging bout yourselves..you are this ..u r that....yeah by the way i m an indian currently studying in london.....so i know what it is here....but for god's sake..stop saying we r in NASA we r the great, we have the biggest and sharpest brains...if that is true then y do u think we would be thinking of migrating to a foreign nation???...y r u giving ur jobs away to London??...y am i spending 15 lacs (18000/-) for my education here???...because we don't do anything in our country..please accept that...u want a job abroad, be open to what the bosses there have to say...if u think we r really SMART then show that in India and make a First grade country like the U.K. for god's sake, please stop being patriotic and start being realistic...

  • Su
    Sucker Punch
    19 September 2007

    You guys just dont get it. Have come across a bulge bracket M&A 2nd year VP from New York, spent 8years there,lived through the downturn, who was told by london headhunters that he did not have western skills that bulge brackets look for....employed now by another bulge bracket.Admit that very different candidate from one who sells pitch book skills from india ....but this crap about 2nd generation seems to permeate thinking

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    Ano
    18 September 2007

    Ohh..come on! It is 'out-sourcing' not 'in-sourcing...'

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    Ano
    17 September 2007

    Definitely not kidding - I can bet you that you will find Indians in most front office jobs where real money is made - the PROP groups - i have worked in several of them

    You seem to be jealous when you say 'of the billions there's a natural spill over' - i certainly did not mention indians out number any nationality or are more brilliant than others - your comment seems to imply that - go get some fresh air and get more cross cultural training

    2nd generation indians can be found in middle office and risk management - You will find Indians (first generation) in FRONT OFFICE - ofcourse mostly b-school guys from the western universities - GO TO HK/TOKYO u will find Indians (first generation) from Indian b-schools

    Lehman, DB, MS, GS are some of the few banks where you will find first generation Indians from India - I will bet you my shirt any day on this

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